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Quantum Dialogue by Ern Jacoby Ph.D.

Not being a good speaker generally results in not to be. Thousands and thousands of men and women worldwide communicate. When you ask them, they reply, yes, we had a good talk. This is understandable: to survive in life, and possibly be successful, a rather complete conviction must exist about the own presence as a human being. Since my early years I fined discussions a rather confusing business. A lot of it is speculative, absolute, not logic, emotional and absurd. For myself a better and adequate way for this is dialogue. This form of communication is not overwhelmed by the reality of egoism. Dialogue is definitely not comparable with discussion far from that.

Dialogue is like wisdom a pathless landscape, without any ideology, any leader, without any approach. "If you stick to your opinion, to your knowledge, and I stick to mine, then there can be no real dialogue, because neither of us is free to inquire. When there is no sharing at all: there is only the beauty of truth, which neither you nor I can possess, it is simple there" (J. Krishnamurti 1895-1986).

For most philosophers there are three different ways of feeling, seeing and interpreting the world. World zero as-it-is-ness: perhaps by contemplation. World one: by sensations, emotions, perceptions, awareness. World two: view by biographic-psychological experience and consciousness, thoughts, interpretations, constructions, ideas, culture, religions und wars. And this happens in world two: Earth is flat, pigs can fly and nuclear power is safe (Greenpeace)! After 2400 years of philosophical reflections, from Socrates to Sir Karl Popper (1902-1994), an ordinary ignorant human being has nothing left to do, like confessing one’s philosophical impotence: “I know that I know nothing and not even that »! Exploring the knowledge of ignorance, Socrates was the first to realize, that philosophy is the self-consciousness of subjective existence. And the twentieth century philosopher Popper has added "and I know not even that“.

The best way starting a fair dialogue is a radical “no-thing” and no thinking contemplation. Everything is just as it is. Nothingness doesn’t give answers, it is the answer! Analyses paralyses, a neverending quotation by J. Krishnamurti. Deep rest and peace – these would be other terms to describe the experience of the radical Quantum Dialogue. Is there something beyond logos, dialogos, beyond biographical experiences, meanings and ideologies? Perhaps a strange energy? Let's find out by Quantum Dialogging! David Bohm (1917-1992), one of the most distinguished theoretical physicists of his generation, will be remembered above all for two radical scientific theories: the causal interpretation of quantum physics, and the theory of the implicate order and undivided wholeness. Bohm believes that life and consciousness are enfolded deep in the generative order and are therefore present in varying degrees of unfoldment in all matter, including supposedly "inanimate" matter such as electrons or plasmas. He suggests that there is a "proto-intelligence" in matter and this ground is always one. Master Eckhart (1260 - 1328) called it as-it-is-I-ness. In a logical approach of radical subjectivity the world two is just a construction in our brain. The world you see is yourself: I'm the world! Radical thinking beyond dualistic categories and metaphysical speculations opens belief in the background of nothingness, world zero.

Self-negation turns into the affirmation of nothingless. Through this concrete relationship of transforming mediation, nothingness becomes love, world one. Nothing else in our life is as irrational as love. Love is nothingness experienced as a radical irrational fact – the paradoxical realm of not thinking. In world zero nothingless is love and love is - without any image - like all created things: stones, rivers and human beings. All life is simply a form of energy that we give names to. Where do I come from? You can say atoms but where do atoms come from? But if all comes from nothingness, love, light? No need to focus on an intention. Where does your will, your desire come from? A central figure of the so-called Kyoto School of philosophy, Tanabe Hajime (1885-1962), is generally acknowledged to be one of the most important philosophers of modern Japan. His philosophy of “Metanoesis” is self-deconstruction and a radical self-transformation. This, in turn, necessitates an emptying of the self. Instead the " Other" is what Tanabe calls absolute nothingness, characterized as negation and transformation in a process of mutual mediation: nothingness qua love, through negation to affirmation!

The art of mental balancing and Dialogging ©, a combination of walking and dialogue: Physical balancing on a mountain tour is well known, mental balancing happens during hours of walking and Dialogging is like a reset of mental activity. Through contemplation and awareness something unknown emerges before giving it a name, something new is continually created as it is common to the artist in interaction. This action out of nothingness gives us immediate psychological relief, a sort of peaceful transformation from which our lives unfold without stress.

The first thing in Quantum Dialogue is to accept the fullness that is beyond ones ego. In this state the dialogue partners will start to feel relaxed because of the deep rest that accompanies the Dialogging process. In dialogue groups we are not going to decide what to do about anything. There is empty space where we are not obliged to do anything nor to come to any conclusions. Space is empty and free, not to say and to say anything is open and free. And after we finish we are not trying to accumulate anything by knowledge. That's one of the points about a dialogue, as Krishnamurti used to say: "the cup has to be empty to hold something". Following the critique of reason each standpoint is a conceptual construct that reintroduces metaphysical speculation. However, even thought can allow human beings to enter into a mediatory self-consciousness beyond our dualistic point of view.

Dialogue as it has been explored, practiced and promoted by David Bohm, J. Krishnamurti and later on by others: "When we engage in Dialogue we let reflections emanate from the group. In contrast to discussion, we create in dialogue common insight; insight that emerges from and flows through interaction - in between. The attention and perception that emerges in dialogue is not the province of any individual rather it belongs to the group as a whole. It is shared meaning, not individual understanding". By seeing one’s desire to search, to know, to exist, observing oneself as an ignorant being, maybe a person encounters a marvellous transformation.

Ern Jacoby Ph.D. co-author of “Dialogging”©, author and facilitator of "Quantum Dialogue" participated at the Saanen Krishnamurti Gatherings during the years 1972 -1985, when Krishnamurti was alive. Information, group and individual Quantum Dialogue settings: